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To disseminate information to the employees working in the offices of AG(civil audit), (comml&receipt audit), tamilnadu &pondicherry reg their service conditions, organisational developments. To create a community network to share views, information etc.,

Thursday, 25 June 2009

Bilateral meeting with PD Staff on 20th April 2009

Bilateral Meeting with Principal Director of Staff on 20.4.2009



The Agenda items:

1. Vacate victimization of Association activists; allow democratic functioning of Association without interference from Administration.
On Kerala situation Principal Director, Staff stated that he is bound by the parameters set by CAG in his meeting with Association on 27th March 2009. Association presented certain instances where AG (A&E), Kerala is behaving in such a manner that does not befit a human being.
Regarding the suspension of Com PC Parikh, President of Civil Audit Association, Rajkot, Gujarat, Pr Director of Staff stated that suspension for such a long period is not desirable and assured that he would intervene.
The issue of insistence on constitutional amendment on quorum was raised by Association. After detailed discussion, PD Staff agreed to have a re-look and put up to DAI. The situation in Kerala where there are four branch offices in addition to the Main office as well as the difficultly for mustering a minimum quorum in the case of SO (Commercial)/AAO (Commercial) whose membership are scattered all over the country were placed in this context.
Similarly on the issue of amending the constitution of All India Audit and Accounts Association to make it a biennial conference, it was stated by Administration that it was sought for the purpose of ensuring submission of annual accounts. After discussion it was agreed that association will submit annual accounts on adoption by the CWC, subject to approval by triennial conference.
PD, Staff stated that circular on grant of special casual leave for organizational work would be reiterated . It was also assured that non grant of special casual leave to members of SO/AAO(Comml) Association – especially in Kerala – would be attended to.

2. Strengthen Audit & Accounts to Safeguard People’s Rights.
(a) Stop downsizing: Stop outsourcing & privatisation of Audit & Accounts; Scrap curtailment/shedding of Audit function in the name of Audit Plan.
(b) Ensure continuance of the existing Accounting and Audition methodologies and appropriate party days with scientific work norms.
(c) Ensure effective Panchyati Raj Audit & Accounts by sanctioning more posts.

Detailed discussion took place on the item. Association insisted that deepening and widening the scope of audit and accounts is what is expected of the department and is the need of the day when scams upon scams are breaking out every passing day.

PD, Staff sated that a review is being undertaken by the administration on the functional requirements. He assured that our view points are being taken into account in this respect.
We from our side requested that CAG take initiative in demanding more areas of work including audit of listed companies. It was stated by us that once CAG take the lead, we will go all out in mobilizing the public opinion in its favor.

3. Redesign ate LDC as Audit/Accounts Assistant, grant PB 1 Grade Pay 2800(4500-7000 revised) and grant following pay scales to other cadres, maintaining vertical relativity.
Auditor/Accountant/Steno Go II : PB 2, GP 4200
SA/Steno Go I : PB 2, GP 4600
SO/AAO/Private Secretary : PB 2, GP 4800
On completion of 4 years
PB 3, GP 5400
AO : PB 3, GP 6600
SAO : PB 3, 7600

It was stated by administration that they would check how error was crept into the advertisement for the post of DEO giving the pay as pre-revised pay scale of 4500-7000.
The Association stated that creation of cadre of DEO would have future ramifications as that cadre would be out of the hierarchy of cadres obtained in IA&AD. We pleaded for re-designation of the cadre as Audit/Accounts Assistant placing all the existing LDCs in that cadre as one time measure.
It was stated by PD, Staff that the demand under this item would be considered at the time of cadre review/restructuring that is underway that is expected to be concluded in another 3-4 months. He assured that the Association would be consulted before any final decision is taken.
It was assured that grant of grade pay 4200 to Auditor/Accountant would be taken up once again with the MOF.

4. Fill up all vacant posts and sanction adequate post as per the agreement of 16.10.1992.
The Association was informed by PD Staff that the 500 dossiers for the post of Auditor/Accountant have already been received from SSC, in addition to that of DEOs. It was stated that presently, Accountants are recruited only in offices of AsG (A&E) at Uttarakhand, Chhatisgarh and Arunachal Pradesh. IN the case of Auditors, initially, in such offices where the vacancy position is above 35% of the sanctioned strength, the recruitment would be done. We were informed that bulk recruitment in any cadre will created a situation of stagnation in the days to come and hence recruitment would be done in phases. It was assured that there would be continued recruitment in the Auditor cadre
It was further informed that final picture would emerge only after the finalization of cadre review that is under way.



5. Grant ACP on hierarchical pattern...
PD, Staff informed that if we insist on grant of ACP on departmental hierarchy, we may have to forego the recommendation of 6CPC for 3 ACP(which is not based on departmental hierarchy but the hierarchy of grade pay).
To avoid loss to the LDCs, PD Staff stated that the diversion of direct recruitment quota for promotion quota can continue for one or two years more and examinations could be conducted wherever necessarily so that no LDC remains for availing ACP.

6. Re-designate Supervisor as Section Officer; grant further promotion unto AO/SAO; earmark 20% of AAO (SO) cadre for Supervisors.

Regarding re-designation of Supervisor, PD Staff informed that it is a bigger issue that could be discussed later. As regards earmarking 20% of total strength of SO/AAO for promotion of Sir Auditor/Accountant as Supervisor, PD Staff responded positively stating that taking the total strength of SO/AAO cadre to grant promotion to Sass as Supervisor could be considered, but it may not be 20%. He said that this could be discussed along with the cadre review.

7. Restore Unilateral Transfer policy.
It was stated by Pr Director Staff that in the given situation restoration of unilateral transfers is not possible.

8. Revise TA/DA rates and permit self certification to claim re-imbursement of food and conveyance charges.
PD, Staff agreed with the view that present situation is creating certain difficulties for the field staff. But the MOF with whom the issue was raised refused to relax the conditions and rejected the request for permitting self certification, instead gave an option of retaining the pre-revised set up, informed PD staff. The Department would write to government requesting to revise the old rates commensurate with the prevailing price line, assured PD staff.

9. Placement of all matriculate Go Ds in PB 1, Grade Pay 1900.
The scheme does not differentiate between matriculate and non matriculate on placement to PB 1, but only on upgrading the skill of the unskilled. Hence it is not possible to grant GP of 1900 to matriculate Gr D, informed PD staff.

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